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| Andrew Callister |
 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:23 pm |
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Hi,
I seem to have the same problem that Johan experienced last January. I’m running a multivariate model with ASReml version 3. It reaches a logical conclusion for diagonal incidence matrices but when I try to fit correlations to a random effect I get the same error message as Johan (“forrtl: severe (66): output statement overflows record, unit -5, file Internal Formatted Write”). The program simply stops after six iterations. The particular numbers in the subsequent lines are different to those of Johan. I obtained a debug file (.asl) but of course it doesn’t make sense to me! Damien Collins offered assistance to Johan in January – did some conclusion arise from this investigation?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew Callister.
Code:
MODEL:
capsretent05 capsretent06 capsretent07 capsretent08 ~ Trait,
at(Tr,1).(age05 health05 paclo05 flowers05),
at(Tr,2).(health06 paclo06),
at(Tr,3).(age07 pol(age07,-2) pol(flowers07,-2) health07),
at(Tr,4).(pol(age08,-2) health08 paclo08 flowers08),
!r Tr.femclone,
at(Tr,1).pollen05,
at(Tr,2).pollen06,
at(Tr,3).pollen07,
at(Tr,4).pollenA08.proportionA08 -at(Tr,4).pollenB08.proportionB08 and(at(Tr,4).pollenB08.proportionB08),
at(Tr,1).femclone.pollen05,
at(Tr,2).femclone.pollen06,
at(Tr,3).femclone.pollen07,
at(Tr,4).femclone.flowers08
1 2 1
0 0 IDEN
Trait 0 US
10*0
Tr.femclone 2
Tr 0 corgh .5 .001 .001 .5 .5 .001 50 50 50 50 !GUFFUUFU
femclone 0 Iden
RUNNING LOG:
ASReml 3.00 [01 Jan 2009] fl [ 2 Sep 2009]
Registered to: Treehouse Consulting
Serial Number: 402062742, expiry: 30-apr-2010
Unable to ALLOCATE 1800 Mbyte workspace; 1248 Mbyte allocated.
fl [ 2 Sep 2009] 1248 Mbyte Windows 4Y_FM
Warning: Unrecognised qualifier at character 53 !LOGFILE !
Summary of 819 records retained of 850 read
Graphics screen requested
Forming 1831 equations: 46 dense.
1 -8185.14 1.00000 2169
LWAGR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iteration complete 22:53:50 0.000
1 LogL=-8185.14 S2= 1.0000 2169 df : 1 components restrained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iteration complete 22:53:50 0.063
2 LogL=-7916.21 S2= 1.0000 2169 df : 1 components restrained
3 LogL=-7647.95 S2= 1.0000 2169 df : 1 components restrained
4 LogL=-7504.59 S2= 1.0000 2169 df : 1 components restrained
5 LogL=-7462.86 S2= 1.0000 2169 df
6 LogL=-7449.84 S2= 1.0000 2169 df
forrtl: severe (66): output statement overflows record, unit -5, file Internal Formatted Write
Image PC Routine Line Source
ASReml.exe 00746BFA Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00743DE8 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00712510 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 007116E4 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 006EB03F Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00483EF2 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 0044CAEB Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 0046471F Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00510C9D Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 004FF6B7 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 0070D643 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 006B7AAE Unknown Unknown Unknown
kernel32.dll 7C817077 Unknown Unknown Unknown
>Execution finished.
From: ASReml users discussion group [mailto:ASREML-L@DPI.NSW.GOV.AU] On Behalf Of Kroon Johan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:11 PM
To: ASREML-L@DPI.NSW.GOV.AU
Subject: V3 problem
Hello!
What is wrong? I have installed Asreml 3.00, and have problem running a multitrait-site model as it just stops without finalizing any output (tested on 32 and 64bites computers). When using 2.00 everything seems to work fine. I get the following message in V3.00:
Code:
forrtl: severe (66): output statement overflows record, unit -5, file Internal Formatted Write
Image PC Routine Line Source
ASReml.exe 0000000140422018 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014041D0F9 Unknown Unknown Unknown
Best regards,
Johan Kroon
Skogforsk
Code:
MODEL:
!PART 06
! Intersite, correlations, multi-trait
!CONTINUE #!DDF -1 !AISING
!MAXIT 100 !VCC 0 !STEP 0.01 !SLOW 20
kond30 AHjd10 Hjd30 Diam30 ~ Trait Trait.site,
Trait.at(site,1).block,
Trait.at(site,2).block,
Trait.at(site,3).block,
mv !r,
Tr.site.MOT -Tr.site.FAT and(Tr.site.FAT)
3 2 1
6303 0 IDEN
Trait 0 US !GPuPuuPuuuPuuuuP
1
0 10
0 1 10
0 1 1 10
6354 0 IDEN
Trait 0 US !GPuPuuPuuuPuuuuP
1
0 10
0 1 10
0 1 1 10
6430 0 IDEN
Trait 0 US !GPuPuuPuuuPuuuuP
1
0 10
0 1 10
0 1 1 10
Tr.site.MOT 2
Trait.site 0 CORGH !G66u12P
0.5
0.5 0.5
0.604141 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.646245 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.5 0.406512 0.5 0.5
0.447638 0.5 0.5 0.779545 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5 0.795731 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5 0.827807 0.5 0.5
0.757857 0.5 0.5 0.618203 0.5 0.5 0.600485 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.491404 0.5 0.5 0.628852 0.5 0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5
0.5 0.5 0.438044 0.5 0.5 0.603353 0.5 0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5
MOT 0 IDEN
ASReml 3.00 [01 Jan 2009] fl [ 2 Sep 2009]
Registered to: Forestry Research Institute of Sweden
Serial Number: 402082600, expiry: 30-jun-2010
fl [ 2 Sep 2009] 30720 Mbyte Windows x64 258-60multiGxE(MOT)06
Summary of 19087 records retained of 19087 read
Warning: tid has more levels [ 19087] than expected [ 19081]
Warning: Fewer levels found in FAT than specified
Forming 26586 equations: 584 dense.
Restarting iteration from previous solution
Warning: Extra lines on the end of the input file are ignored from
45 46 47
1 -72308.02 1.00000 65728
LWWWAGR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iteration complete 09:21:08 0.000
Notice: LogL values are reported relative to a base of -70000.000
1 LogL=-2308.02 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iteration complete 09:21:09 1.560
2 LogL=-2306.55 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
3 LogL=-2304.44 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
4 LogL=-2301.78 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
5 LogL=-2298.69 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
6 LogL=-2295.31 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
7 LogL=-2291.75 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
8 LogL=-2288.12 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
9 LogL=-2284.52 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
10 LogL=-2281.03 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
11 LogL=-2277.70 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
12 LogL=-2274.57 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
13 LogL=-2271.68 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
14 LogL=-2269.04 S2= 1.0000 65728 df
forrtl: severe (66): output statement overflows record, unit -5, file Internal Formatted Write
Image PC Routine Line Source
ASReml.exe 0000000140422018 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014041D0F9 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001403EB0B6 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001403D12C1 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001403D0AEF Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014039D5E4 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001400B3DB4 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014006BBB5 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014008B34B Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001401874CE Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 000000014016E261 Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 00000001403CC01C Unknown Unknown Unknown
ASReml.exe 0000000140363283 Unknown Unknown Unknown
kernel32.dll 000000007758F56D Unknown Unknown Unknown
ntdll.dll 00000000777C3281 Unknown Unknown Unknown
>Execution finished.
>>>>>>>>Iteration complete 09:21:08 0.000
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| Arthur |
| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:04 pm |
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Location: Orange, NSW
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Dear Andrew,
It would appear you have tripped at the same BUG that Johan discovered.
The problem was generated because the CORGH structure has become singular or maybe negative definite. There is a problem with the error message reporting this.
ASReml does not have good ways at keeping a CORGH structure positive definite. I suggest you use a US structure for which ASReml has better control (and it will avoid this error message).
The bug has been fixed but the fixed version has not been recompiled and validated (and then distributed) by VSN yet. |
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| Andrew Callister |
| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:40 am |
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Thanks Arthur,
It does work better with the US structure.
Regards,
Andrew.
From: ASReml users discussion group [mailto:ASREML-L@DPI.NSW.GOV.AU] On Behalf Of Arthur
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:05 AM
To: ASREML-L@DPI.NSW.GOV.AU
Subject: Re: ASReml V3 running problem
Dear Andrew,
It would appear you have tripped at the same BUG that Johan discovered.
The problem was generated because the CORGH structure has become singular or maybe negative definite. There is a problem with the error message reporting this.
ASReml does not have good ways at keeping a CORGH structure positive definite. I suggest you use a US structure for which ASReml has better control (and it will avoid this error message).
The bug has been fixed but the fixed version has not been recompiled and validated (and then distributed) by VSN yet.
Arthur Gilmour
Retired Principal Research Scientist (Biometrics)
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